Posnetki za testiranje

[JAZZZ]

[sullly]

@jazzz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PRutNJao_Y
imaš še kaj na jutubu za pokušino?
Doma imam sicer en CD klopotec demo posnetkov, kopija od kopije preko frendov. Pa LP-jko Kauèièa.
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@lightbit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjKNW__Mtac
ja, ta posnetek mi že sam laptop zvoèno 'preluknja'.
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[LightBit]

[Eminent]

Sully je napisal:
Ravno vèeraj sem šel do kolega @castorja, kjer smo inavgurirali nov ojaèevalec na lampe 300B. Ta ojaèevalec je namenjen za poganjanje Troels Gravesen top projekta, ki pa še ni konèan. Tako smo sprobali na nekoè mega sistemu Cizek2+2xMG27 sub.

Leta že išèemo zvoènike ki znajo tudi potiho igrat polno in bogato, pa so predvsem težava ojaèevalci, ne pa zvoèniki. Meni je rablo dosti let da pridem do tega.

[ljubitelj7]

[Eminent]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32891431414.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.52671802S75zOQ
http://www.audio-kontakt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=122187&sid=1df217fa4c979423e998584460c3fc1e

[pinus]

...samo na kratko..
Zgoraj omenjen 300b integrirc, ki se ga da dobiti za cca 670€ - je v resnici "kitajski èudež" - res ugodno...
Nisem še slišal - in ne bom komentiral..
Naj samo omenim, da sem imel cca 10 let Coincidentova Frank 300B (- s zelo dobrimi 300B elektronkami) monobloka (- vsak po 15kg), plus njihov pred s zunanjim napajanjem (- ga obdržal) - res vse ok, a na koncu samo 8 W - res pravih, a še vedno samo 8.. Za pravi realizem, top dinamièni kontrast v veèjih prostorih - žal nekoliko premalo...Ok, mogoèe na 100db zvoènikih..., èeprav Avantgarde s 107db - priporoèajo moènejše ampe od 8W...
Za veèerna poslušanja - ok..
In èe pogledamo še cene - nam pomaga rubrika AK mali oglasi - tam se najdejo elektronke 300B W. Electric, par - 1600€... Za kakih 500 se najde drugje tudi še kaj dobrega..
Zgoraj pa je govora o komplet ojaèevalcu... - Nehote se èlovek vpraša, kako je tam s kvaliteto...ok, dopušèam tudi možnost èudežev... Èeprav stari rek - malo denarja - malo glasbe, naj bi bil še vedno aktualen...


lp

[sullly]

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Ne spat, stvari se dogajajo.
Ti zgornji zakljuèki so iz testa:
https://www.stereophile.com/content/lsa-vt-70-integrated-amplifier

Èe navežem na temo scena posnetkov v povezavi z zvoèniki ne morem mimo Elac zvoènikov UniFi Ref UBR62, kjer poceni zvoènik s svojo sceno direktno konkurira 10x dražjim zvoènikom. Ne pozabiti da je njegov tvorec A.Jones (ex TAD).
Veèina zvoènikov se omeji na 'plakat'. Razlika je ta ali je ta plakat spredaj med zvoèniki ali je potisnjen daleè nazaj. Tudi èe je odzadaj, ne moremo govoriti o globini scene èe nima nièesar spredaj.

Naslednja stopnja je torej nekaj spredaj, nekaj zadaj.

Še naslednja stopnja, že kar visoka šola strereo scene pa prikaže tudi dodatne sloje glasbenikov med muzikanti spredaj in tistimi odzadaj, plus prostor med muzikanti v isti vrsti.
Dobrodošli pri bookshelfu Elac za 900€ ki to zmore in veèina veliko dražjih zvoènikov pa ne. V bistvu je to bolj kot ne rariteta, neglede na ceno.
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Valjda za to slišati so potrebni posnetki ki to imajo kot že omenjeni Opus3.
Zato pravim da je brezveze povpreènemu avdiofilu ki tera rokenrol iskati take performanse, ki jih na posnetkih njegove zvrsti preprosto - ni.
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Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.
(Eleanor Roosevelt)

[sullly]

Za posnetke pop glasbe je zelo primerna filozofija gibanja Flat Earth Audio. Nastala v 70/80-ih letih v navezi Naim - Linn, kjer se ceni živahnost, ritem, da te ponese, da zaèneš tapkati z nogo, èe že ne plesati - takozvani PRAT.
Se pa dobesedno požvižga na stereo sceno. Upravièeno, ker je to optional, dodatni okrasek, èe sploh obstaja na te sorte posnetkih.
https://tomtomaudio.co.uk/flat-earth-audio/
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Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.
(Eleanor Roosevelt)

[pinus]

... sem te dni sluèajno nekaj veè èasa na forumu...
Tako da - te Elac zvoènike, ki se jih da dobiti , kot vidim, že za 848€, nove, ne bi bilo slabo slišati - glede na komentarje, mora to biti nekaj posebnega... Èe ima kdo to priklopljeno-postavljeno in èe se lahko oglasim, se lahko ob priložnosti pripeljem... Nikoli se ne ve, kdaj se pojavi kaj presenetljivega...
Pri toliki produkciji, se ne da vsega slišati (- se kar nekaj od tega prespi), same recenzije pa me zanimajo s precejšnjo rezervo...


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[joztom]

Elac je 3-way koaksialni mid+tweeter, ki uporablja mid za horn ali waveguide. Verjamem, da je odlièen kot satelit. Basa na 160 razen nearfield posluÅ¡anja ni, je pa nakazan. Za popolnost je treba dokupiti konjske sile od ELAC Debut 2.0 SUB3030 12″ Powered Subwoofer.
To pa je definitivno tudi brez testa verjetno vrhunsko. Kdorkoli od specialistov, ki dela 12" sub z DSP je poznavalec in mu je verjeti.

[Audiomarka]

A kdo ve na kaki opremi je bilo posneto tole? Se mi zdi eden izmed najboljših posnetkov zabavne glasbe:
https://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/music/0905/folk/charles.htm
Kolikor sem prebral je bilo posneto v 2eh studijih, Concord je pa bolj jazz založba... vsekakor dober album duetov in še boljši zvok.

[Audiomarka]

https://www.linkwitzlab.com/music.htm

Anouar Brahem, The Astounding Eyes of Rita, CD (2009)
Mason Bates, Works for Orchestra, San Francisco Symphony, Michael Tilson Thomas, CD (2016)
L. Bernstein, West Side Story, San Francisco Symphony, Michael Tilson Thomas, 2 SACD, SFS Media, Klassik Review
J. S. Bach, Matthaeus Passion, Chor des Bayerischen Rundfunks, Concerto Koeln, PeterDijkstra, 2 DVD Video, BR Media
Leonard Cohen, Live in London, Sony Music, DVD Video
Elton John, The Red Piano, live from Caesar's Palace, Las Vegas, DVD Video
Mamma Mia, The Movie, DVD Video
Anne-Sophie Mutter, Mendelssohn, Kurt Mazur, Gewandhausorchester Leipzig, DVD Video, DGG B0012533-00
Gustav Mahler, Symphony No. 5, Daniel Barenboim, Chicago Symphony Orchestra, DVD Video, Arthaus Musik 100 033
Gustavo Dudamel, Los Angeles Philharmonic, The Inaugural Concert, DVD Video, DGG B00113638-09
San Francisco Symphony, Michael Tilson Thomas, Keeping Score, Copland and the American Sound, DVD Video
Sjostakovitj, Symfoni Nr 15, Uppsala Kammarorkester, Magi, SCD 1148 (Great recording to show off the ORION's qualities)
Beethoven, Complete Sonatas & Variations for Cello and Piano, Channel Classics, CCS SA 22605, 2CD
The Ray Brown Trio Live at the LOA, Summer Wind, Concord Jazz SACD-1027-6
Postcards, Turtle Creek Chorale, Reference Recordings RR-61CD
Ein Straussfest, Cincinnati Pops Orchestra, Kunzel, Telarc CD-80098 (listen once demo stuff)
Haydn, String Quartets, The Amsterdam String Quartet, Channel Classics, CCS SA 25907
www.brklassik.de - Bavarian Radio classical station on the web with an interesting mix of old and new music. I listen to the station with my Logitech Squeezebox connected to the ORION system. The sound stream is at 128 kbps CBR and usually of very good quality. Often the material is from recent live concerts in Europe, well recorded, but not available on CD.
Jennifer Warnes, Famous Blue Raincoat, The Songs of Leonard Cohen, BMG 01005-82092-2
Randall Thompson, The Testament of Freedom, Timothy Seelig, Turtle Creek Chorale, Dallas Wind Symphony, Ref. Recordings RR-49CD
Rachmaninoff, Vespers, Robert Shaw Festival Singers, Telarc CD-80172
Handel, As steals the morn ..., Arias & scenes for tenor, Mark Padmore, The English Concert, Harmonia Mundi HMU 907422
Beethoven, Complete Sonatas and Variations for piano and cello, Pieter Wispelwey & Dejan Lazic, Channel Classics CCS SA 22605, 2SACD
Leif Ove Andsnes, A Portrait, (piano - Grieg, Liszt, Haydn, Nielsen, Tveitt, Johansen, Saeverud, Janacek, Rachmaninov, Shostakovich) EMI Classics 5 74789 2 (2 CD)
Thomas Quasthoff, Bach Cantatas, (bass-baritone) DGG B00003458-02
Janine Jansen, Vivaldi, The Four Seasons, Decca B0005298-02
Jacintha, Here's to Ben, A Vocal Tribute to Ben Webster, Groove Note, BRV1001-2, #4, 9
Joe Cocker, Ultimate Collection, Hip-O/A&M B0001572-02 (a study in recording technique and sound processing over a 32 year span)
Herbie Hancock, Gershwin's World, Verve 314 557 797-2, #2, 3
Mahler, Symphony #3, Riccardo Chailly, Concertgebouw, Decca B0002336-02
Stravinski, The Rite of Spring, Lorin Maazel, Cleveland, Telarc CD-80054 (powerful bass, fierce brass, spectacular)
Diana Krall, The Girl in the Other Room, Verve B0001826-12, #3, 10
Mahler, Symphony #2, San Francisco Symphony, MTT, SACD 821936-0006-2
Arthur Rubinstein, The Chopin Ballades & Scherzos, Living Stereo, SACD 82876-61396-2
Orff, Carmina Burana, Telarc SACD-60575
Sound Pictures, a sampling of my own special recordings on a Demo CD
Super Bass 2 with Brown / Clayton / McBride, Telarc SACD-63483, #7, 11, 12
Medeski, Martin & Wood, TONIC, Blue Note Records, #8, 6
Mickey Hart, Planet Drum, Rykodisk RCD 10206, #7
Three Guitars, Larry Coryell / Badi Assad / John Abercrombie, Chesky JD248, #5
Lhasa, La Llorona, Atlantic 83120-2, #8, 5
Stravinsky, Shadow Dances, DGG 289 453 458-2, #1, 21, 24
Brian Bromberg, WOOD, A440 music group, 4001, #1, 3
Wynton Marsalis, Mr. Jelly Lord, Standard Time, Vol. 6, #2, 5
Rachmaninoff, Symphonic Dances, Eiji Oue, Ref. Recordings RR-96CD
Ports of Call, Eiji Oue, Ref. Recordings, RR-80CD, #2, 1, 9
Benjamin Britten, The young person's guide to the orchestra, RCA 09026-61226-2, #10, 2, 1
Horowitz at Home, DGG 427-772-2, #7
Yo-Yo Ma, The New York Album, Sony SK 57 961, #1, 2
Ofra Harnoy, Romantic cello sonatas, RCA 09026-61818-2, #3
Igor Stravinsky, Histoire du soldat, Chesky CD122, #12
PULSE, The New Music Consort, Classic Records NWCD 319, #1, 3
Ariel Ramirez, Misa Criolla, Philips 420 955-2, #1, 5
John Rutter, Requiem, Ref. Rec. RR-57CD, #9
Mi Buenos Aires querido, Daniel Barenboim, Teldec 0630-13474-2
Belafonte at Carnegie Hall, Classic CD LSOCD 6006, 2#9, 5, 4, 7, 6
Fairfield Four, Standing in the safety zone, Warner Bros. 9 26945-2, #9, 3, 7
The Roches, Warner Bros. 3298-2, #5
Rickie Lee Jones, Pop Pop, Geffen GEFD-24426, #7, 6, 9
Holly Cole, Temptation, Metro Blue CDP 7243 8 31653 22, #4, 3, 11 (bass is exaggerated)
Jazz at the pawnshop, Proprius PRCD 7778, #3, 5
Duke Ellington, Indigos, Columbia CK 44444, #8
Bela Fleck, Live Art, Warner Bros. 9 46247-2, 1#4, 7, 2#1, 6*, 9
* = Test your system to hear if it can play track 6 on disc 2 cleanly at realistic volume levels. Be careful!
I - Ching, Of the marsh and the moon, Chesky WO144, #1, 6, 7, 10
Andreas Vollenweider, Book of Roses, Columbia CK 48601
Pink Floyd, The Wall, Columbia C2K 68519, 1#4, 5
Stevie Ray Vaughan, The sky is crying, Epic EK 47390, #2, 8, 4
The best of Santana, Columbia CK 65561, #3
Eagles, Hell Freezes Over, Geffen GEFD-24725, #6
Bucky Pizzarelli, Swing Live, Chesky JD 218, #7, wow! play it live!
Edgar Meyer, Bela Fleck, Mike Marshall, Uncommon Ritual, Sony SK 62891, #7, 8, 17
Deedee Bridgewater, Live at Yoshi's, Verve 314 543 354-2, #5, 9
MANGER, Musik wie von einem anderen Stern, sampler (Caution: #12 has severe subsonic signals)

[ducar]

Ko hodim okoli poslušati in se delam pametnega, uporabim najveè pet komadov, ki jih dobro poznam. Sploh ni nujno, da so to naterani avdiofilski posnetki. Jaz uporabim enega iz klasike-orkester ali komad z revialnim orkestrom, en zborovski napev iz klasike ali koralni napev z izrazitim ambientom, en jazz štikelc-kvartet s solo vložki posameznih inštrumentov in po potrebi še eden od jebene pop/rok muske. Èimveè naravnih inštrumentov in seveda vokal, ki je za moj okus najpomembnejši pokazatelj kje smo.
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Canta e Cammina

[GoldProf]

@ Audiomarka, sorry, kje so Avseniki in Slaki?

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